religions mixed up..

ninikins · 12-04-2006, 07:56 PM

I can understand people having one religion and living by that. I cannot understand forcing a religion on a baby and expecting the child to adapt to two different things at once while it has no concept of anything yet seems silly

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"The singer, who practices Kabbalah, also addresses how her spiritual practices might influence David, who has been photographed wearing the red-stringed bracelet that is often associated with followers of the religion.
“I believe in Jesus and I study Kabbalah. So, I don’t see why he can’t too,” says Madonna. “The essence of the Kabbalah is the teachings of Jesus. You know, love your neighbor as yourself.” Madonna: I Offered to Leave David with His Dad » Gone Hollywood

Alexa · 12-05-2006, 12:38 AM

Hmm. I hope David will have a better life with his father.

mtatum4496 · 12-12-2006, 09:02 PM

It is a lot for a little one to process. But I have seen it done successfully. In fact, it occurs to me that it can actually lead to the child growing up to have an appreciation for the good points of many different faith traditions, instead of developing the idea that there is one faith that has a premium on truth.

Lyricb · 12-19-2006, 12:50 AM

I think if it is done right then maybe it will be of benefit to the kid eventually. I don't know though...it does not seem like a simple thing.

TinyStar · 12-19-2006, 09:33 PM

Forcing a specific religion on ANY kid is a little silly, if you ask me. Give them time to grow up and decide what they want to believe in and such, you know?

Lyricb · 12-23-2006, 02:48 PM

I didn't mean to force, TinyStar, what I was saying was I would raise the kid by letting them know that this is what mom believes and this is what dad believes, and the kid can make their own decision when the time comes.

stephanie2377 · 12-24-2006, 08:48 PM

I believe that a child should be raised in the specific church of his/her parents. This will instill beliefs, values, morals, etc. Then, once the child is grown, it is up to him/her to examine these beliefs instilled by the parents, and decide whether to continue in their church of birth or explore somewhere else.
As David's adoptive mother, Madonna will be one of the spiritual leaders of the home (along with Guy). Then, when old enough, David can decide which direction to pursue.

echos · 12-27-2006, 11:29 AM

Forcing any religion on a child, is wrong ,in my opinion. I say let them come to there own conclutions, where religion is concerned. Echos

Slashmire · 01-18-2007, 03:09 PM

I don't think that this is "forcing" but rather "teaching." Parents do not force their child to not touch a burning oven, or force their child to watch both side before crossing; they simply teach what they know until the child can make a conscious choice.
I think that until a child can make a conscious choice with reasons, then it's just pointing in a direction.

Melos · 01-19-2007, 02:28 PM

No offense please, but I can't stand the "forcing religion on a child is wrong" thing. Parents teach their children what they believe to be right, religion or otherwise. Its like saying its 'wrong' to put babies in a particular sports team's jersey before they have a choice, or choosing to "force" them into piano lessons or something.

I think it wrong in general for people to be fundamentally adament about their religion, however, and have an incredibly closed mind. When a child is old enough, they should be encouraged to think and explore and learn, whether it be a religion or another sports team or the harmonica.

12-04-2006, 07:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
ninikins Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	religions mixed up.. I can understand people having one religion and living by that. I cannot understand forcing a religion on a baby and expecting the child to adapt to two different things at once while it has no concept of anything yet seems silly : "The singer, who practices Kabbalah, also addresses how her spiritual practices might influence David, who has been photographed wearing the red-stringed bracelet that is often associated with followers of the religion. “I believe in Jesus and I study Kabbalah. So, I don’t see why he can’t too,” says Madonna. “The essence of the Kabbalah is the teachings of Jesus. You know, love your neighbor as yourself.” Madonna: I Offered to Leave David with His Dad » Gone Hollywood

12-05-2006, 12:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Alexa Alien investigator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 546	Re: religions mixed up.. Hmm. I hope David will have a better life with his father.

12-12-2006, 09:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
mtatum4496 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 51	Re: religions mixed up.. It is a lot for a little one to process. But I have seen it done successfully. In fact, it occurs to me that it can actually lead to the child growing up to have an appreciation for the good points of many different faith traditions, instead of developing the idea that there is one faith that has a premium on truth.

12-19-2006, 12:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lyricb Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 45	Re: religions mixed up.. I think if it is done right then maybe it will be of benefit to the kid eventually. I don't know though...it does not seem like a simple thing.

12-19-2006, 09:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
TinyStar Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 19	Re: religions mixed up.. Forcing a specific religion on ANY kid is a little silly, if you ask me. Give them time to grow up and decide what they want to believe in and such, you know?

12-23-2006, 02:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lyricb Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 45	Re: religions mixed up.. I didn't mean to force, TinyStar, what I was saying was I would raise the kid by letting them know that this is what mom believes and this is what dad believes, and the kid can make their own decision when the time comes.

12-24-2006, 08:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
stephanie2377 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 17	Re: religions mixed up.. I believe that a child should be raised in the specific church of his/her parents. This will instill beliefs, values, morals, etc. Then, once the child is grown, it is up to him/her to examine these beliefs instilled by the parents, and decide whether to continue in their church of birth or explore somewhere else. As David's adoptive mother, Madonna will be one of the spiritual leaders of the home (along with Guy). Then, when old enough, David can decide which direction to pursue.

12-27-2006, 11:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
echos Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 36	Re: religions mixed up.. Forcing any religion on a child, is wrong ,in my opinion. I say let them come to there own conclutions, where religion is concerned. Echos

01-18-2007, 03:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Slashmire Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 26	Re: religions mixed up.. I don't think that this is "forcing" but rather "teaching." Parents do not force their child to not touch a burning oven, or force their child to watch both side before crossing; they simply teach what they know until the child can make a conscious choice. I think that until a child can make a conscious choice with reasons, then it's just pointing in a direction.

01-19-2007, 02:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Melos Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 35	Re: religions mixed up.. No offense please, but I can't stand the "forcing religion on a child is wrong" thing. Parents teach their children what they believe to be right, religion or otherwise. Its like saying its 'wrong' to put babies in a particular sports team's jersey before they have a choice, or choosing to "force" them into piano lessons or something. I think it wrong in general for people to be fundamentally adament about their religion, however, and have an incredibly closed mind. When a child is old enough, they should be encouraged to think and explore and learn, whether it be a religion or another sports team or the harmonica.